[Gossip-dev] Using xchat-gnome's UI for gossip chatrooms

Martyn Russell martyn at imendio.com
Sun Jan 21 20:04:17 CET 2007


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Xavier Claessens wrote:
> In the other hand gossip may gain of having a x-g-like UI for chatrooms.
> I personally prefer the x-g way of displaying a MUC over gossip's
> current chatroom UI. When I compare gossip's chatroom window and x-g's I
> see no big difference in supported features. I think x-g UI can be
> perfectly used for jabber chatrooms. Note that x-g is not xchat, x-g's
> ui is lot simpler and provide less (useless for common use cases)
> features.
> 
> The big question here is: what about having a group-chat-window separate
> from private chats ? In gossip actually you have the group chat embedded
> as tab in in the same window than private chats, I think it's not a very
> good idea. Personally I prefer having a separate window because I keep
> jabber/irc chatroom open all the time even if I don't speak on the room.

You shouldn't design just for your use cases. I like to keep private
chat tabs open all day because the people I talk to tend to go offline
and then later come online. I also like ALL my conversations in one
place so I can easily find them and switch between them. So the current
"all-in-one-window" solution works nicely for me.

In reality the question you ask here is completely down to personal
preference and I don't want to separate the two types of chat, because
at the end of the day, you are doing the same thing with both windows,
chatting... If you look at xchat-gnome, it also has private chats in the
same window.

> For private chats I close the window as soon as I have nothing more to
> say to the person. So the idea to have a special window looking like
> x-g's window for all chatrooms is for me a better choice because I can
> auto-join all favorite chatrooms when gossip starts and having them all
> in a window and keep that window open and ready to discuss on a irc
> channel or a jabber room.
> 
> Maybe this difference between chatrooms and private chat is why nobody
> use jabber chatrooms. 

I wouldn't say that is TRUE.

> All jabber clients supports jabber chatrooms like
> other private chats, that's not what users expect, they prefer the x-g's
> way for group chats. That may be a reason why IRC is far more popular
> than jabber chatrooms even if jabber is a better and more modern
> protocol than IRC.

I agree with Mikael on this point, it is more than likely down to
persuading people.

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Regards,
Martyn
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