[Gossip-dev] Accelerator key inconsistencies

[CJ van den Berg]

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 07:57:45AM +0200, Mikael Hallendal wrote:
> CJ van den Berg wrote:
> > Closing the Gimp tool window closes all the Gimp windows and exits the
> > application. Closing the Gossip roster window doesn't close the chat windows
> > /or/ exit the application, so I don't so how you can compare them. More
> > importantly, the Gimp is designed that way because closing your tool window
> > makes little sense if you still have other Gimp windows open. I don't see
> > how that can apply to Gossip's roster window.
> 
> Maybe you have a different version of Gimp than me and this changed
> recently (and mine is too old). But my gimp-tool-window does not have a
> Ctrl+w for closing it and pressing the X in the window frame does as in
> gossip exit the application (and closing all other windows just as in
> gossip).

Well, yes, they are identical. My point was that they *shouldn't* be because
the use cases are completely different.

> Are you confusing the ESC for hiding the roster window here?

No, I know exactly what the difference between "hiding" and "closing" a
window is. My point is that this difference should *never* be visible to an
end user. Remember that this thread is about UI inconsistencies.

> > Anyway, I didn't actually intend to start a long-winded bike shed thread. I
> > just thought that it was pretty obviously a bug, so I thought I'd mention it
> > in case no-one had noticed it.  If things are the way they are by design,
> > that's fine with me.
> 
> No worries, just trying to understand how the current way of Gossip is
> different from Gimp.

Ok, well as I said above, it's identical, but shouldn't be.

> Currently the roster window is the main application window of Gossip. It
> would be nice to change this (and martyns applet is a way of doing this
> and making the applet the main UI of the application and the roster
> window just another window as any other that you can show or close, no
> need for hide then since you can just remove the window and have a way
> to show it again from the applet).
> 
> If there are other ideas for how to achieve this (I personally don't
> consider using only the notification icon for this an option).

Whether or not the window is just hidden or actually closed is irrelevant.
It's just an implementation detail as long as the user can't tell the
difference. Just hiding the window is fine, as long as it's done
consistently.

Trying to explain to users that they shouldn't "close" a window, only "hide"
it is a sure way to get a lot of really blank stares.

-- 
CJ van den Berg

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